I just listened to an interview today with General Michael V. Hayden on the Waking Up podcast with Sam Harris, who is the former director of the CIA and NSA. It was short and very educational. Sam Harris’ last question was about General Hayden’s view on the Russian Hacking scandal. This is what he had to say and I thought it was worth transcribing.
“The Russians did it. It’s a high confidence judge of the American intelligence community. They did it to affect the election. They stole the data, and they washed the data through our friend Julian Assange and some other platforms, and then they put out an army of trolls to touch the data so that Google’s algorithms thought these were trending things so that they would come very much into our consciousness, so it’s incredible technically. It’s called a covert influence campaign. It’s the most successful covert influence campaign in the history of covert influence campaigns.
Now I do point out, as somebody who used to run the CIA, I can’t claim that my agency has never been involved in something like this in its history. Covert influence campaigns do not create fractures in a society, they exploit fractures in a society and make them worse. So I think the first teaching point after I walk away saying the Russians did this….is shame on us for giving them the opportunity…by being so fractured in our political discourse.”